you may not be aware of all sides of reality with israel , but there is a stream of thinking that posits israel was created by euro-british interests ( largely but not entirely ) —financed by them quite early, with many intentions, but ultimately to solve the british french and other problems in maintaining their control over the middle east as they pulled out after ww2. they pulled out of other places to, and massive wars happened ( india-pakistan-banglesh wars, for example)—-in the wake of pullouts/retreats
so with this thinking, israel is controlled somewhat at the very top, as is the u.s. and elsewhere with a purpose to bring forwards and structure the conditions for big big wars, that are hard to pull off.
since there are still some people that want a practical path towards preventing ww3, this would mean a stabile endgame.
for israel, they will probably unilaterally attempt an endgame to this chapter of conflict if it does not spin out of their control to a wider regional war, which i believe it will because of the incentives of all sides and parties to this conflict and tertiary interests.
what would a plan for you be? i’m curious. i find most israeli’s i know are impractical and just go along with the government game of managing conflict. with palestinians, its easy to say they have no agency and just throw your hands up and blame israel for subverting everything. that kind of attittude, whereever it comes from is fine if you are a virtue signaller and enjoy being right, but it still doesn’t settle on finding a solution to conflict.
it has always been the case the birtish and others draw national lines that are devised to leave lasting conflict.
the very existence of gaza as a rump territory was a political-geographical landmine place quite purposefully. but also, because it was easy NOT to move people, but moving people is always what large colonial nations have done .
so what now? it seems 2 pieces of land , continguous and integrated, would be a great place to start. and this simply isn’t possible with gaza. i’ve been saying this obvious thing since 2006 when isarel ‘pulled out’ of gaza.
it’s my contention that if you really look at the DETAILED maps of israel and thew est bank and gaza, you will come to the same conclucsions and details of a plan i have, simply by using rational reasoning.
in fact, it seems very easy to come up with a solution.
1) all gazans into the west bank.
2) all israel settlers out
3) jerusalem split, with isarel constitution being changed to prohibit government tolerance of discussion of groups building the rd temple on al aksa, and capital of israel shifted to tel aviv or haifa.
4) arab villages in israel surrounding west bank border, are given to the west bank, those israelis now palestinian,
5) gaza annexed
6) port access guaranteed by shipping and rail/truck from west bank through jerusalm to port of ashdod (israels main port)
7) israel finances all of west bank development for new housing with 50% perpetual profit share off all gas development off formerly palestinian controlled gaza coast
in this way, west bank can then be put on a plan for total israeli pullout, because israeli military will not pull out of west bank entirely until a peace plan is in place, and the palestinians then are on a timeline of X number of years of not using west bank as a launching pad for rockets and missiles.
there’s probably a few other points, but realistically, israeli is never going to want to pull out of the west bank but they will have to if a political deal is arrived at.
sounds crazy? no. the idea that the original ‘u.n’ vote is what legitimized israel or delegitimized it when corrupted parliaments are just that……is crazy, because the u.n. generally hasn’t produced peace. the security counsel has some influence and what to to say. but still, i don’t think israel at its highest leadership level is able to push this deal through.
does this sound crazy and non empathetic . perhaps. but it’s my perception of what israeli’s could be backed into accepting because its reasonable while placing them in long term danger which they will always have.
it is just curious to me that this obvious plan still isn’t discussed publicly by many people.
if you redirected all the war money towards building housing and education, the west bank would be incredibly wealthy compared to what it is now and it is poverty and imbalances that also drive jealousy which divides people who also speak in other languages. evening out living standards would go a long way.
frankly , i am extremely pessimistic for world affairs and i think we are clearly heading into a turn of history soon. for many, they’re already there.
i listened to the entire Huberman Barret interview. excellent . thank you.
i like huberman but he’s too loquacious and has a lot of boring guests. this one was very worth it.
—wolf kaztweil, stoic reader, an unzian jew, with both a religious orthodox schooling, and a hyper-zionist upbringing. who has no beneficial affiliations with oligarchs