This interview is interesting and I appreciate Dugin’s perspective, but it also strikes me as simply intellectual decoration on the surface of a clandestine war which has been raging inside the West over the course of several generations. Everything is being destroyed not for transhumanism, which is real and yet also an excuse, but for totalitarian control of, first, the West and eventually Russia and the rest of the world. Control of the West has been seized through millions of acts of individual violence designed to shape society by disabling (usually not killing) promising young people, particularly young males. The West did not provoke the Ukraine War for transhumanism but as a step toward weakening Russia to eventually destroy and control whatever is left of it. ABN