.@ComicDaveSmith shocks @joerogan with a powerful rant about NATO expansion, the 2014 Ukraine coup, and how American policies led to the War in Ukraine, bringing us closer to a potential nuclear World War III:
“It’s not like it’s just Ron Paul, Noam Chomsky, and Pat Buchanan…
•Robert McNamara (Sec. of Defense)
•Robert Gates (Sec. of Defense)
•William Perry (Sec. of Defense)
•George Kennan (American diplomat)
•William Burns (CIA Director)
“They all opposed NATO expansion in the strongest possible language and all explicitly because this will provoke a conflict with Russia. There’s this great interview that George Kennan gave with Thomas Friedman from the New York Times in the 90s when they were doing the first round of NATO expansion, and he is furious… What are you guys doing? We won the Cold War. Now, you are picking a fight with Russia?
These aren’t the Soviets. These aren’t the communists. These are the heroes who overthrew them. Why are we picking a fight with them? He’s said, and this is a crazy prediction, really ominous. The people who are expanding NATO will keep expanding it and expanding it, and then there will be a Russian reaction, and then when theirs the Russian reaction, they are going to say, see, that’s proof that we have to keep on expanding it.”
•CIA Director William Burns warned in a 2008 memo to Condoleezza Rice that NATO expansion to Ukraine crosses Moscow’s “redlines” and could “split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.”
“The same dumb neocons that had this policy to remake the Middle East are the same ones that had this policy to expand NATO to Russia’s border. And man, was this just the dumbest, most reckless policy ever. That’s now put us in a position where we are closer to a risk of World War III and nuclear war than we have ever been in my life, and for what? To make sure the Donbas region is ruled by Kyiv rather than Moscow? Is that really worth it?”
In 1997, 50 prominent US foreign policy experts, including Senators Bill Bradley, Gary Hart, Sam Nunn, and Sec. of Defense Robert McNamara, wrote to President Clinton warning that NATO expansion would be “a policy error of historic proportions.”
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/opposition-nato-expansion
CIA Director William Burns warned in a 2008 memo to Condoleezza Rice that NATO expansion to Ukraine crosses Moscow’s “redlines” and could “split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.”…
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651801360667648003
Noam Chomsky explains how US involvement in Ukraine and the expansion of NATO to Russia’s border created the War in Ukraine:
“The idea that Ukraine would join a Western military alliance would be quite unacceptable to any Russian leader. Gorbachev agreed to allow Germany to…
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651801985593778176
NATO expansion since 1986.
Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General of NATO, says NATO has been providing “training and equipment” to Ukraine’s military since “the war started in 2014.”
How many Americans know that NATO has been arming Ukraine since the war started in 2014?
In 2016, Victoria Nuland told Congress that US advisors serve in 12 Ukrainian ministries, US-trained police operate in 18 Ukrainian cities, the US Treasury helped close 60 Ukrainian banks, and the US spent $266 million on training Ukrainian soldiers.
Here’s Tom Friedman’s interview with George Kennan in 1998:
”I think it is the beginning of a new cold war,” said Mr. Kennan from his Princeton home. ”I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake.…
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651815103514427392
Originally tweeted by KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) on April 28, 2023.
Great work on this thread by KaneokaTheGreat. ABN
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